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- Item 3621160 16-Dec-87 19:54
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- From: D0635 MacHax Group, Dev, Scott Boyd
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- To: ALCABES1 Alcabes, Harvey
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- Sub: MacApp Ω-testing
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- Harvey,
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- I've been watching the MacApp$ cross-talk for quite a while now, and an
- impression has formed in my mind I'd like to share with you.
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- It seems that you, meaning all the people at Apple interested in seeing MacApp
- succeed, are wide open to suggestions. And we, meaning all the developers who
- are interested seeing MacApp succeed, are more than willing to give them to
- you. The major problem we have, however, is that the current status of MacApp
- 2.0 is still largely unknown to most of us. I'm sure a few "insiders" are well
- aware of the current design philosophy and directions, but most of us are still
- relying on imressions from Boston MacWorld and other tidbits gleaned from
- various sources.
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- MacApp is a perfect example of an evolving product, and you have been VERY
- responsive to user suggestions throughout the product's history. And, I know
- you're counting on the same sort of suggestions for the 2.0 version. But, I
- think the user base has expanded enough that it is important to start the
- feedback loop even before code is available to experiment with.
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- We, and I hope I can speak for the other developers, could give you lot's
- better feedback if we had more information about the new product. A design
- spec sheet would be a great start. Blue-sky ideas are still important, but I
- think some concrete suggestions based on current reality are imperative to the
- success of MacApp 2.0. I know it's late in the cycle to be changing the
- foundation, but the earlier you have feedback coming in, the earlier you can
- change some aspects of the new system.
-
- Ever since I've been handling MacApp related questions, the biggest problem has
- been the inablility to grasp the paradigm. O-O programming turned out to be
- easy compared to understanding windows/frames/views/controls/etc... From what
- little I know about 2.0, I'm very excited about the basic change in the
- paradigm. The sort of documentation I think developers should see may already
- be available, but if it is I haven't heard about it. The notification of the
- availability of such documentation should be made through "generic" developer
- channels. Maybe a flyer in the monthly developer mailing offering to send it
- to respondants would be appropriate.
-
- The alpha/beta test cycle I've seen in MacApp and other Apple products is
- terrific. But again, I think it's time to extend the process so that the
- developers are part of the early design process. I know it's impractical to
- try to keep everybody abreast of every development issue, but monthly updates
- to interested parties would at least provide a channel for informed feedback.
- I'm not even talking about "fancy" docs here... even some engineeers' notes
- scrawled on the back of a napkin would be welcome. (sort of reminiscient of the
- old Apple II days... I still have my _cherished_ copy of the original
- hand-written reference information)
-
- I think a debate of this type should be opened up to the (relatively) small
- MacApp$ group to get a reading on developers' response to these ideas. If you
- weren't so well known for paying attention to suggestions, I probably would
- have opened this up already.
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- Thanks for listening.
-
- Greg
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- P.S. I'd also like to mention that I don't feel that APDA is the appropriate
- distribution channel for the kind of info I'm talking about... It should come
- directly from the team(s) on the project(s) in question.
-
- P.P.S. How do you feel about the term 'Ω-testing'? Nothing comes before alpha,
- so when I shift one letter to the left, the alphabet "underflowed"!
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- P.P.P.S. See you at the Expo in Jan... %-)
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